Eccentric Flower talk:201010/Still No Haircut

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Jette:

I don't think we say "Tom Hanks hair" anymore; it's now "Jesse Eisenberg hair."

-- 23:18, 8 October 2010 (BST)


Columbina:

AUGH.

-- 23:23, 8 October 2010 (BST)


Mel:

I'm in the "don't get your hair cut" camp.

(And I just this minute got back from The Social Network, and I have to agree with the AUGH. Although since I've always liked Jesse Eisenberg a lot until now, I think that probably just mostly means that he's a really good actor.)

-- 01:34, 9 October 2010 (BST)


Patrick:

It took me for-freaking-EVER to figure out a haircut that works for me. It actually wasn't until I went to Los Angeles for a Thanksgiving celebration and got my haircut at a barber shop called "Shorty's" that I figured out what I should have, and that was because the awesome lesbian barber was given free reign to do whatever she wanted.

Would it make sense to maybe have dinner with a hairdresser or two and turn that into an impromptu "consultation?" Because I can make that happen. I know a LOT of hairdressers.

-- 03:20, 9 October 2010 (BST)


Columbina:

That would make me feel a little bit guilty (after all, I don't like being asked to give computer advice when I'm having dinner or some other social engagement with someone). But if I stay on this curve of desperation, I may ask you seriously about it. I have a couple more personal recommendations to follow up.

The funny thing is that I don't recall ever seeing you - live or in photos - in a haircut I thought looked bad on you, so it's interesting to hear there has been some angst!

-- 03:24, 9 October 2010 (BST)


Ursula:

You have to remember that the assumptions you make about people don't always gibe with what other people think. In my book, a 40-something guy with a ponytail is by no means automatically a douchebag. Maybe things are different here on the west coast, but I don't think too many people would see a 42-year-old guy with a ponytail and just assume it was some desperate midlife crisis deal. If a guy is a douche, other things will give him away as a douche... Maybe the ponytail would be the cherry on his douche sundae, but by itself it's not a big deal.

Middle-aged and older guys can look good with long hair. It all depends on the guy, and the style. If you want to have long hair, find a style that works... DO NOT cut it all off just so you can conform to some iffy idea you have about what other people expect.

Being a little overweight can make a huge difference in how you look in drag. Try losing some weight before you burn all of your girl clothes on a pyre. (I'm currently trying to drop way too many pounds, myself.)

(I never noticed the Hanks resemblance, but now that you mention it... Hey, he was a romantic leading man in his day, don't knock it.)

-- 03:42, 9 October 2010 (BST)


Thomas:

This reminds me I MUST get around to making this hairdresser appointment I have been meaning to for couple of months.

I even carry the cash, as the place I go does not accept the credit cards. Just that I keep not making that appointment.

But mone in the email (or should I make it a journal entry of my own?)

-- 04:10, 9 October 2010 (BST)


Joy:

Well, I for one think you look rather dashing in long hair. Then again, I realize that dashing might not exactly be a compliment, and so I apologize for that thought.

Also, I could never survive long hair without gel. I understand resisting product, but really, gel could really really make it easier to cope with (long or short). Suave makes a good one for something like $2.97, it is ridiculous. Part of the thing with curly hair is that YOU CANNOT BRUSH IT. Seriously. Mine gets brushed after I get out of the shower, and then not again until another shower, when it is either long or short, but especially when it is short or it turns into a poofball.

I wish you were close by. I could give my hairdresser (the term I prefer) explicit instructions and I think she'd do a good job.

-- 20:57, 9 October 2010 (BST)


ProfRobert:

First, I support whatever you want to do with your hair. That's such an enormously personal choice that I don't feel it proper to express and opinion unless pressed to do so.

I miss my long hair, and it's been almost 20 years since I cut it (and I am kicking myself still that I didn't know I could donate it for wigs for cancer patients -- if you do decide to hack it all off, I hope you'll look into that). I think, though, if I grew it back now, I'd look vaguely like Comic Book Guy. You think looking like Tom Hanks is bad? CBG would be two orders of magnitude worse.

I did grow my beard back (such as it is) when we went to Europe for three weeks. My wife hated it, and so to torment her further, I shaved off the mustache part and went Amish for a day till I had to go back to work and took it all off.

I get my hair cut at George's barbershop near the corner of my block. I really like it that I go to the neighborhood barbershop. They know me there, and the owner (George? I've never figured that one out) always says hello on the street or if I pass by on a toddle with Nathan. It's $11, plus a $3 tip, every six to eight weeks, I look respectable, and it's easy as pie. I hope you find something similarly satisfying.

-- 06:08, 10 October 2010 (BST)


Rhonda:

Ursula is right, and Joy is absolutely right, especially about not brushing the hair.

And ProfRobert points out something that always makes me envious of men: Mens’ haircuts are cheaper. (I am embarrassed to admit how much I spend on my haircut. And my salon calls her a Designer. Not sure whether that’s even worse than Stylist. Probably.)

But I think a Consultation is a good thing. If you don’t know what you want, you want advice on what the person would do to your hair before they start cutting. And you want to know whether they are going to piss you off. And you don’t want to waste the person’s time. I like the idea of dinner consultations, though it seems to me that you should probably pick up the tab…

If your hair is that tangled, I want to know whether you're using a conditioner. If you’re not, you really should. Neutrogena's Triple Moisture shampoo & conditioner are wonderful, and reasonably inexpensive.

The trouble with hairdressers adding hair products, in my opinion, is when they’re pushing product for the sake of pushing product, and half the time it’s the wrong product for one’s hair. Or else it’s way too perfumey.

If you're open to a *little* product, the next question is whether you want a product that straightens your hair a little so that you don't get the Eisenberg effect, and make sure that your chosen hair person uses the right thing and no other. (Supposedly Kiehl makes a straightening creme that might give you the look you want, but I don't know anything about it other than that it exists. Or if you want to still be curly-but-manageable, Bumble & Bumble makes product that I love that has hardly any smell at all (and you can buy it in uber-bulk, and a little goes a long way).)


-- 06:24, 10 October 2010 (BST)


ProfRobert:

"so that you don't get the Eisenberg effect,"

I believe the formal name for this condition is the Eisenberg Unruliness Principle.

-- 21:59, 10 October 2010 (BST)


Columbina:

Oh, I bet you were real pleased when you came up with that one.

-- 01:18, 12 October 2010 (BST)


ProfRobert:

Heeheeheeheeheeheehee.

For the record, I'm real pleased by every one I come up with.

-- 03:41, 12 October 2010 (BST)


Rhonda:

ProfRobert: Yes! My hair follows that principle! It might or might not look really good if I'm unobserved by anyone for whom I might want to look especially nice. But the moment someone I want to impress is observing me, it looks like hell.


-- 19:34, 12 October 2010 (BST)


Joy:

Col, I had a dream last night that featured you and your hair. That's about all I remember, except I know it was still long and I also thought it looked great and suited you.

-- 19:42, 12 October 2010 (BST)


Joy:

Also, I want to hug the young you in that photo.

-- 19:49, 12 October 2010 (BST)


Kymmz:

I have been going to the same hairdresser since I was twelve, this is why I only get my hair cut once a year, when I go home for Christmas. Which, since my hair doesn't seem to grow anymore, works out just fine.

-- 21:49, 12 October 2010 (BST)


Ysabel:

Talk to Amy about hair. Make time to do so. Trust me on this.

-- 21:01, 18 October 2010 (BST)

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