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Jette:

A.O. Scott has written a review of "Away We Go" that is along the same lines ... I am tempted to see the movie just so I can see exactly what he's talking about, but I suspect it'll just annoy me, too. But that first quote you pulled is delightful.

-- 19:22, 12 June 2009 (BST)


Mel:

I was wondering if the note would be the property of the kid or the school. The kid, I suppose, seeing as how it was the last day of school anyway, and she'll probably never have to turn it in.

-- 23:19, 12 June 2009 (BST)


Bunny42:

Talking of news (papers), did this make your blood boil?

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/06/11/daily-show-visits-th.html

-- 09:04, 13 June 2009 (BST)


Columbina:

I haven't managed to get to BoingBoing in days and days (haven't you noticed how much calmer it is here? heh), and I didn't watch the segment because I felt it was well-summarized for me. The discussion thread is good. I agree strongly with Takuan at #6 on what papers should be doing, and I agree with points 4 and 5 M. Dery makes at #30:

I know the Chomsky argument by heart, and can quote it from memory. What Chomsky and Herman never tell us is: who will fund the Real Journalism that will replace that Hated Heap of Falsehoods About American Empire that is the NYT? Every time I read the criminally clueless Jeff Jarvis - Self-Appointed He-Ra, Master of the Mediaverse - I comb his screed for an answer to that question, but answer comes there none. Ever. Show me the beef. Where's the revenue stream, the funding mechanism that's going to support the Real Journalism of the Future?

Another, thumpingly obvious question, so obvious it seems to be hidden in plain sight from those who insist we've already read the morning's news online, on a jillion blogs, by the time Old Media get around to covering it: Where in Cthulu's name do you think 99% of all blogs, including HuffPo, are getting their facts? In virtually every instance, they're linking to reported stories on some newspaper website. Unless you're talking Malkin and other frothing heads, who are linking to yak about yak about yak. What happens when the few remaining overseas bureaus and the few remaining national bureaus close? You like hyperlocal? Awesome, because that's all you're going to have. Man does not live by Little Leagues scores alone.

Look, much about mainstream corporate journalism is rotten to the core. I've slept with MANUFACTURING CONSENT under my pillow for years, and argued its righteous theology in my writing. But waving HuffPo as some sort of exemplar of the New, New Cluefulness brings out the Marxist economic determinist in me, as do Overestimated Prophets like Jarvis, none of whom can tell us who's going to pay for the news of the future. Of course we'd all love to see Scahill-style reporting calling power to account. But who's going to do that reporting in a world where all the people who used to pay, like the NYT, have gone to the boneyard?

-- 16:08, 13 June 2009 (BST)


Bunny42:

"I comb his screed for an answer to that question, but answer comes there none."

I can't remember when I've read such a sentence. Not recently, that's for sure. It sings with beauty. M. Dery has the gift. "Frothing heads..." "Thumpingly obvious..." Good stuff, that.

I was especially amused by the fellow who bragged about his BA in English. I had been lamenting the fact that very few of the commenters, including him, were able to construct complete sentences. Then came the BA in English. I laughed out loud. I keep hoping it's just that people type fast and don't proof read. Probably too optimistic.

-- 19:08, 13 June 2009 (BST)

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